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Heading vs. Thread Tools. I would be interested to know the difference between a heading and a radar heading if there is one? Often we get the command "fly heading" etc. I heard a frustrated controller dealing with Ritornelli Pedanti - Radar (18) - Radar foreign crew a few weeks ago and he was trying to get them to acknowledge that their current heading was in fact a radar heading and it got me thinking about the difference.
Any info. View Public Profile. Find More Posts by Hufty. Evil J. Effectively, there is no difference. The term "radar" is generally only included to emphasise that you are no longer on your own navigation. Find More Posts by Evil J. Never used the term myself and never will! QRX for more far knowledgeable responses Boy, has this issue been bashed around or what. A heading is a heading is a heading. No differencec, just some ATC's are Various - Electric Nights Vol.
2 pedantic than others and insist that there is a difference. I never use the term RADAR heading as I would have already radar identified the traffic and any use of headings thereafter can only be RADAR headings, what other means or determination is there other than utlilizing the radar to determine correct use of headings.
Find More Posts by cat man do. From the Mil point of view we never use the phraseology 'Radar Heading' because as cat man do has just stated - a heading is a heading! Hope that helps from the not so knowledgeable. Find More Barry Manilow With Kid Creole And The Coconuts - Hey Mambo by Flobadob.
Scott Voigt. That's why we just use the term "fly heading". We have no nomenclature for "radar heading. Find More Posts by Scott Voigt. I don't believe it. I agree with all you guys. Is this a first, ATCs around the world agree on phraseology?
Find More Posts by DirtyPierre. The phraseology is, of course, 'continue heading' full stop, nothing else. The unnofficial phrase 'Radar heading' has crept in for emphasis because some pilots instructed to 'continue heading' have failed to do so, the aircraft has unexpectedly turned at the next waypoint for whatever reason and radar separation has been compromised. This may be due to mis-management of the autopilot, a lack of understanding of why ATC requires the heading to be continued, or simple forgetfulness.
It is a pity that such emphasis of such an effective, simple phrase becomes necessary. Last edited by Talkdownman; 2nd Aug at Find More Posts by Talkdownman. Find More Posts by 2 sheds. Oh please, don't start this one again Find More Posts by bekolblockage.
Pierre Argh. I think the term Radar heading came from the cockpit first Ende - Anthroprophh - Anthroprophh More Posts by Pierre Argh. And, at the very distinct risk of repeating SO many earlier threads but it hasnt stopped us so far the term radar heading is only mentioned in MATS pt1 by the phrase " From a pilot point of view, I use the term 'radar heading' when instructed to change frequency and report that heading to the new controller.
On the new freq, I say ' I just make sure the new controller knows that I am on a 'radar controlled heading' and not on a heading avoiding CBs or whatever other reason there may be Same token, I would say ' Once a while Ritornelli Pedanti - Radar (18) - Radar airplanes may be avoiding build ups and some may be on a controller assigned heading in the same sector.
Since I am not always quite sure if the new controller knows what heading Ritornelli Pedanti - Radar (18) - Radar am on, I just tell him. Or do you, as controller, feel annoyed? Well, just my 2p. Find More Posts by wondering. Posting Rules. You may not post new threads. BB code is On. Smilies are On. Trackbacks are Off. Pingbacks are Off. Refbacks are Off. Forum Rules. Thread Tools Show Printable Version. Email this Page. Advanced Search.
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